Round 2, Game 12: [X-CON] Immortal vs (LT-U)Apokalips
Who won?
You decide. Here are both sides:
You decide. Here are both sides:
[X-CON] Immortal: hl
[X-CON] Immortal: wtf
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hi
{{DHK}}HolyLord: what
[X-CON] Immortal: i play vs apokalips
{{DHK}}HolyLord: this bad?
[X-CON] Immortal: when i go killed him he crash
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ss
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ?
[X-CON] Immortal: i have
{{DHK}}HolyLord: show
[X-CON] Immortal: after he load and killed me
[X-CON] Immortal: change tactick
{{DHK}}HolyLord: lol
[X-CON] Immortal: wtf
{{DHK}}HolyLord: well
{{DHK}}HolyLord: if you loaded
{{DHK}}HolyLord: lol
[X-CON] Immortal: http://img80.imageshack.us/i/apo.png/
[X-CON] Immortal: first
{{DHK}}HolyLord: o
{{DHK}}HolyLord: lol
[X-CON] Immortal: load was in 1 min after pt
[X-CON] Immortal: i killed him 2 min after
[X-CON] Immortal: lol
[X-CON] Immortal: http://img705.imageshack.us/i/beztytuucnp.png/
[X-CON] Immortal: he crash
[X-CON] Immortal: so ?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: sec
[X-CON] Immortal: i too should make load and killed him lol tthis is
{{DHK}}HolyLord: sec
{{DHK}}HolyLord: where is jay
[X-CON] Immortal: he crash when i going kill him
[X-CON] Immortal: ask jay
[X-CON] Immortal: this is fer ?
(LT-U)Apok@lips: hi
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hi
(LT-U)Apok@lips: i,m win vs inmortal
(LT-U)Apok@lips: event
{{DHK}}HolyLord: sec
(LT-U)Apok@lips: give ss?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ss please
(LT-U)Apok@lips: ok
(LT-U)Apok@lips: sec
(LT-U)Apok@lips: http://img171.imageshack.us/i/winvsinmortal.png/
{{DHK}}HolyLord: did immortal use tm?
(LT-U)Apok@lips: ask jay
(LT-U)Apok@lips: yep
(LT-U)Apok@lips: maybe use
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hi
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hi
{{DHK}}HolyLord: who won
{{DHK}}HolyLord: apok vs immortal
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo
{{DHK}}HolyLord: immortal said
{{DHK}}HolyLord: he was gonna kill apok
{{DHK}}HolyLord: then apok crashed
{{DHK}}HolyLord: and after load apok won
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: no
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: all crashed
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: immo also
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo had backup then
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: he won decisive ly
{{DHK}}HolyLord: so
{{DHK}}HolyLord: did immortal almost kill apok before the crash?
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: no
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: never
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo hd monks
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: bowmen
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: cross
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: and few maces
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: and had money for maces
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: if immortal was able to kill apo then he wud have killed him now also after load
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: xD
{{DHK}}HolyLord: well not if the load was earlier
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: i said what i feel
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: nothing more
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo won before and then
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: thats all
{{DHK}}HolyLord: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3051/apo.png
{{DHK}}HolyLord: doesnt look like this lol
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: it looked
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: cuz he killed his bowmen with knights
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: but apo had nice backup
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: if u can u believe me
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: dont want dont believe
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: idc
{{DHK}}HolyLord: i believe you
{{DHK}}HolyLord: but i am trying to get what happened
{{DHK}}HolyLord: accurately
{{DHK}}HolyLord: so i can be a fair judge
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: the matter is i saw immortal used tm
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: also
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: xD
{{DHK}}HolyLord: now you tell me this? lol
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: buying wood
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: making fast monks
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: all
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: pls dont tell him i said u this
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: im a old player
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: i know how its different from tm and normal
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: im noones enemy
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: both are my frnd
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: bye
((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: igtg
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ok bye
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: no ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: all crashed ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: immo also
[X-CON] Immortal: when apo crased lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo had backup then ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: he won decisive ly
{{DHK}}HolyLord: :\
[X-CON] Immortal: sure
{{DHK}}HolyLord: well
{{DHK}}HolyLord: the problem is
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you didnt come to me
{{DHK}}HolyLord: after he crashed
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you loaded
{{DHK}}HolyLord: and then die :\
{{DHK}}HolyLord: and watcher says this is true
{{DHK}}HolyLord: so i cant change it lol
[X-CON] Immortal: watcher is from apo
[X-CON] Immortal: and idiot ;p
{{DHK}}HolyLord: should not have let him watch then
{{DHK}}HolyLord: the problem is you loaded and die
{{DHK}}HolyLord: if you come to be before load
{{DHK}}HolyLord: with ss of apok crash
{{DHK}}HolyLord: then maybe i could have changed it
{{DHK}}HolyLord: lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: but why load?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: {{DHK}}HolyLord: did immortal almost kill apok before the crash? ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: no
{{DHK}}HolyLord: :\
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: never
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you should not let this dotard watch your game lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: if immortal was able to kill apo then he wud have killed him now also after load ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: xD
{{DHK}}HolyLord: {{DHK}}HolyLord: well not if the load was earlier
[X-CON] Immortal: http://img80.imageshack.us/i/apo.png/ good time for crased
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: apo won before and then ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: thats all {{DHK}}HolyLord: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3051/apo.png
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ya i showed him
{{DHK}}HolyLord: {{DHK}}HolyLord: doesnt look like this lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: if u can u believe me ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: dont want dont believe ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: idc {{DHK}}HolyLord: i believe you
{{DHK}}HolyLord: {{DHK}}HolyLord: but i am trying to get what happened {{DHK}}HolyLord: accurately {{DHK}}HolyLord: so i can be a fair judge ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: the matter is i saw immortal used tm
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: also ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: xD {{DHK}}HolyLord: now you tell me this? lol ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: buying wood
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: making fast monks ((X2X))~"The Phoenix…: all
[X-CON] Immortal: i know jay is watcher from apo . so when i had watcher from x-con too he was lost
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ok well
{{DHK}}HolyLord: i wont judge this myself
{{DHK}}HolyLord: ill let bartholo decide
{{DHK}}HolyLord: 1 sec
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hey
{{DHK}}HolyLord: did jay crash too?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: or just apok
[X-CON] Immortal: jay not
[X-CON] Immortal: jay when he crash LOL
[X-CON] Immortal: say lol
[X-CON] Immortal: and leave and i too
[X-CON] Immortal: in gr
[X-CON] Immortal: and apo was
[X-CON] Immortal: jay is too top lier
{{DHK}}HolyLord: i know, he's idiot
{{DHK}}HolyLord: why u use this fool for watcher
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hey
[X-CON] Immortal: i tell apo geralt too watch
{{DHK}}HolyLord: find the save
[X-CON] Immortal: he tell not
{{DHK}}HolyLord: in your file
[X-CON] Immortal: what save ?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: if apokalips saved the game
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you should have it in your file
{{DHK}}HolyLord: so i can see it too
{{DHK}}HolyLord: do you have windows vista?
{{DHK}}HolyLord: or windows 7
[X-CON] Immortal: 7 but he save when killed me
[X-CON] Immortal: on autosave
[X-CON] Immortal: i look
{{DHK}}HolyLord: here
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you can find it like this
{{DHK}}HolyLord: C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Firefly Studios\Stronghold Crusader\saves
{{DHK}}HolyLord: in windows 7
[X-CON] Immortal: sec
{{DHK}}HolyLord: it should be called
{{DHK}}HolyLord: autosave.msv
{{DHK}}HolyLord: k
[X-CON] Immortal: empaty folder
[X-CON] Immortal: lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hmmm
{{DHK}}HolyLord: hey
[X-CON] Immortal: ?
[X-CON] Immortal: me and apo you watch
{{DHK}}HolyLord: well
[X-CON] Immortal: i show you lol
Bartholo's decision:
{{DHK}}HolyLord: according to bartholo
{{DHK}}HolyLord: [6:43:07 PM] bartholo: well if he decided to play again (load game)....
{{DHK}}HolyLord: [6:43:11 PM] bartholo: and if apo won
{{DHK}}HolyLord: [6:43:18 PM] bartholo: then i think its over for him
{{DHK}}HolyLord: [6:43:31 PM] bartholo: he made the decision for us [6:43:32 PM] HolyLord: so apok wins? [6:43:34 PM] bartholo89: yes
{{DHK}}HolyLord: like i said
{{DHK}}HolyLord: you should have come to me
{{DHK}}HolyLord: after he crashed
{{DHK}}HolyLord: look what bartholo said about the first game (before crash and load)
{{DHK}}HolyLord: [6:41:45 PM] bartholo89: and by the way [6:41:50 PM] bartholo89: immortal obviously won [6:42:10 PM] bartholo89: just by looking at the stats
{{DHK}}HolyLord: we would have given you the win
{{DHK}}HolyLord: if you told us first lol
{{DHK}}HolyLord: but you decided to play again (load)
{{DHK}}HolyLord: and after that time you lost
[X-CON] Immortal: id bratholo send me
{{DHK}}HolyLord: he's not on GameRanger
[X-CON] Immortal: so where ;p
{{DHK}}HolyLord: Skype
[X-CON] Immortal: you make room
[X-CON] Immortal: and invite apo
[X-CON] Immortal: and me
[X-CON] Immortal: and watch
[X-CON] Immortal: or fack off i good lost
[X-CON] Immortal: put he won
[X-CON] Immortal: i dont play with him again
{{DHK}}HolyLord: load
{{DHK}}HolyLord: i mean
{{DHK}}HolyLord: i will put a link
{{DHK}}HolyLord: to both stories
{{DHK}}HolyLord: next to the game
{{DHK}}HolyLord: and both screenshots
{{DHK}}HolyLord: but apokalips will go to round 3
{{DHK}}HolyLord: sorry :\
[X-CON] Immortal: cuz i am noob
{{DHK}}HolyLord: nah
Final Decision?
1. If you don't think the watcher is going to be fair, then choose another watcher. Don't blame the watcher for being unfair if you agreed for him to watch in the first place.
2. As Bartholo said, "immortal obviously won" the first game, the one in which Apokalips allegedely crashed. Did Apokalips really crash? I don't know. But the screenshot shows enough for us to conclude that Immortal was winning. After the crash, Immortal should have come and said that he was winning and that Apokalips crashed before being killed. This would have been enough for Immortal to advance to round 2. But instead, as Bartholo stated, Immortal "made the decision for us" by deciding to load and give Apokalips another chance. The 2nd time (after the load), Apokalips was able to change his tactics and defeat Immortal. This was counted as the final result, because Immortal himself allowed Apokalips to get another chance; can he take his chance back after Apokalips won the 2nd time? According to Bartholo, this is unfair. I agree.
